This is meant to pick up where HANDS OVER YOUR HEAD ON THE GROUND left off.
My Experience at St Cloud (MN) CentraCare hospital.
https://www.centracare.com/locations/centracare-st-cloud-hospital-behavioral-health-i/
In the post that follows AMHU stands for Adult Mental Health Care Unit
Here's what it looks like on the inside:
(I drew this from memory 3 months into my stay at the next facility) I should update it with stars on the rooms where disability requirements arnt met)
Clearly drafting isn't my strong suite and there's a few things I'd fix if I had done it digitally or with anything but pen. But this should give you the gist of the mostly miserable place.
This is also a great place to insert a disclaimer:
A lot of the staff there try really hard and do care about their patients. I'd say it's maybe a 25 percent issue with staffing (and 75 percent issue with the system they work in and their overlords(the drs and management.) At the end of this post there's a section titled silver linings that talks more about the good.
Scratching the Surface
The AMHU took a list of lawyers the er had printed for me. Like from my room without at first even admitting that they had done so.
The AMHU also doesn't have directory assistance on it's phones.
Staff was forbidden from looking anything up for me.
The AMHU provided no place for private phone use
I was told my chart and diagnosis info required having a lawyer request it.
That changed after the commitment to I need to sign a release to myself.
A lot of these run up against Minnesota statutes 144.651
https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/cite/144.651
It's their policy (possibly against mn health care policy) to go through patient journals and writings often ripping things out. They do so with out notifying the patient of what was removed.
Also I wasn't aware of these policies or the Minnesota statutes until about a month later when I was transferred to Baxter. Baxter actually has them on the wall CentraCare St cloud staff off and referred to a little black book of patient rights but they usually said no one seen it in quite a while.
That's probably the funniest joke of all if it weren't reality.
Isolation
Conflict in staffing?
I'll be the first to say I'm not sure if this meets the qualifications. Regardless it didn't help my internal stress level. What is it?
The director of the ward used to work with my mother. He was security at children's-Allina in St Paul.
my mom as far as I know is still a neonatal nurse practitioner at children's in St Paul Minnesota. She has been for as long as I can remember. I'm not entirely sure how old Tyler is but I would put him within 6 years of my age (either direction.)
The moment he realized this he went silent on the topic.
Considering what the doctor was insisting about the events while refusing concern over the fact that I have two years of recorded phone calls, the nature of the accusations and the nature of what Marlene and Paul wuethrich have said to me...
It was far from comforting.
Another Oddity:
When I finally received my records I found: they claim I told a patient that CT dye has a tracking device in it
For the record: I explained that by drinking the dye it acts like a tracer for your blood vessels and or any leaks in there.
I've known for a long time a CT scan is a x-ray/radiological process. You drink the radioactive dye so it's absorbed into your blood stream and lights it up on the images produced. I wish I was kidding but the mental health ward at centra care will apparently write anything they need to get the desired results.
Maybe this was a case of the writer not understanding how a CT scan works. Still apparently it's worse than bush policy. Aka it's no adult allowed ahead instead of no child left behind.
This is the tip of the iceberg with mistreatment
Things claimed in court
Delusions of fungal or parasitic infection
The blood (nose bleeds from mold exposure) was self harm
Delusions of things in my blood
Keep in mind I had 0 access to the internet and they didn't care about the med records that showed otherwise but here's some pics from the 2 years leading up to this
Consider the following :
Regardless of legality does this sound ethical?
A friend I made while held there had been in and out of places like that since he was 4 years old. This included Rochester's Mayo clinic mental health unitAs close as I can to verbatim he had this to say
"I've never seen a place as f***** up or punishing you for arbitrary things as CentraCare St cloud.
Also consider
not commenting on my own case but in general how does one fight a court battle when you can't keep even documents private let alone know that you'll have them the next da
When this involves claims made by a doctor how do you go to court prepared when neither your public defender nor your doctor will tell you what the claims are or wh
There are some serious issues with this syste
Speaking with my social worker a few days ago I found out that they were unaware that I had ever held a job. My education history was also wrong as wel
The other issue with this system is once you're committed it's highly unlikely to somewhat impossible to have the next Doctor reverse anything. It requires the courts. You're basically at the mercy of the county that sought the commitment
They also have the ability to override what the doctor thinks is the best course for the extent of the commitment
Again trying to avoid too much comment on my own case I think if we are to have any justice in civil commitments or have them do the help that they're supposed to... To be about healing rather than punish
We need to at very least correct that part of this issue
At the last hospital I was held at I was told by the social worker that the county told them if they put me anywhere unlocked the police will simply arrest me to put me back in a hospital
I've been compliant and calm from the start I continue to be compliant calm and behaved
It also seems there's no obligation for a doctor to look at objective sources of evidence. The problem there is when it's combined with the court the doctor's testimony when you're being committed is an expert opinion. We know from a long long time ago that one of the logical fallacies is appeal to authority. How that's supposed to work is if authority can't explain why and they just use their position to support something that's a fallacy. Yet it seems we have no protection in the law to keep a doctor's word about your reality from becoming legal fact and consequence for yo
The way I put it is from my experience but generalize
Minnesota has reached a place where police could break your arm take you to a doctor who diagnoses itself injurious behavior
They're under no obligation and you might not even be able to access even a surveillance video of it happening
Just food for though
Good judges should still keep you safe from this. The problem as I see it is nothing is guiding us towards good judges and little is done to judges that violate rights or their oath.
The other problem with minnesota courts is one I found out the hard way. If you accept a public defender in Minnesota; they're no longer bound to the lawyers board of professional responsibility.
In other words in Minnesota public pretenders are almost like real lawyers except incompetent representation is only decidable by the original Court/judge in the original county. Aka the same people who made the contract to hire your defence decide if you were competently represented. Does this sound like a safe system?
I wrote the board at some point when I can legally take a picture I'll post a picture of the summary dismissal because of the Minnesota supreme Court case that decided this
I'm probably going to be held another 8 months despite exemplary behavior the entire time.
I have enough money to get another apartment not enough to hire a lawyer to fight this and get another apartment it's a bit of a catch 20 f*** you
This post is a work in progress
Though not written as a direct extension MN Preponderance and Silence follows naturally with the topics started here
Shades of Gray and Silver Linings
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